For that pipe itself, I don't think it was caused by age. It was caused more because the pipe actually settled.

I don't think there was ever a situation that occurred, even though we over-filled certain areas, that there was a threat to public health and safety.

Their contention is any spill is a violation.

Once the concrete goes in, we need to let the concrete set and harden for another 24 hours.

This is one of the most challenging main breaks our department has faced in many years.

This is not as simple as flicking a light switch.

They already know we are under the gun. There is no way we can close Waimanalo Gulch Landfill by 2008 and select a new landfill.

We haven't gotten to that period where we can stop the pumps from going on, and the water from coming through the force main and do the repair. I know we need to do a more thorough inspection and maintenance program also, not just replace pipe.

We need to expose the main before repair can begin.

I think we're all in the same ballpark; we all have aging systems. It's a big financial burden.